Rudolf Steiner
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Rudolf Steiner

Laurel brought up Rudolf Steiner on the “Toys and Games for children” topic. Any thoughts on Rudolf Steiner? Some of his ideas do not sound all bad, other not so much…  His idea about Christianity are well a bit odd to say the least. On the hand some of his ideas on ethics, education, art, agriculture, and health look like they might be of some merit.

Rudolf Steiner (born 25 February 1861 in Murakirály, Austria-Hungary (now Donji Kraljevec, Croatia), died 30 March 1925 in Dornach, Switzerland) was an Austrian philosopher, literary scholar, educator, artist, playwright, social thinker, and esotericist. He was the founder of Anthroposophy, Waldorf education, biodynamic agriculture, anthroposophical medicine, and the new artistic form of Eurythmy.

He characterized anthroposophy as follows: “Anthroposophy is a path of knowledge, to guide the spiritual in the human being to the spiritual in the universe…. Anthroposophists are those who experience, as an essential need of life, certain questions on the nature of the human being and the universe, just as one experiences hunger and thirst.”

Steiner advocated a form of ethical individualism, to which he later brought a more explicitly spiritual component. He derived his epistemology from Johann Wolfgang Goethe’s world view, where “Thinking… is no more and no less an organ of perception than the eye or ear. Just as the eye perceives colours and the ear sounds, so thinking perceives ideas.”

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Steiner

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Posted: 26 April 2008 12:05 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Steiner’s personal history I am not familiar with; the sections in the wikipedia article where some accused him of being Jewish were news to me. I do know that he could not in any way be called an orthodox Christian; that is, part of the historic, recognized as Christian, church. Anthroposophy to me sounds like a form of gnosticism; the spiritual is presented as separate and more valuable than the physical world.

All that being said, I love their attitude to children and the nurturing of them. The toys are sweet; Waldorf education (I visited Waldorf preschools as part of researching what kind of teacher I wished to become) seems gentle and somehow down-to-earth.

Anyone else have information to contribute?

God bless,
Laurel

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Posted: 26 April 2008 12:16 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Laurel,

Yes, I agree with most of what you say. I have read a bit about Waldorf education. I did not see anything in article that said he was Jewish?

Laurel Loflund - 26 April 2008 12:05 AM

Steiner’s personal history I am not familiar with; the sections in the wikipedia article where some accused him of being Jewish were news to me. I do know that he could not in any way be called an orthodox Christian; that is, part of the historic, recognized as Christian, church. Anthroposophy to me sounds like a form of gnosticism; the spiritual is presented as separate and more valuable than the physical world.

All that being said, I love their attitude to children and the nurturing of them. The toys are sweet; Waldorf education (I visited Waldorf preschools as part of researching what kind of teacher I wished to become) seems gentle and somehow down-to-earth.

Anyone else have information to contribute?

God bless,
Laurel

Waldorf Education…

In Frequently Asked Questions About Waldorf Education? Waldorf supporter David Schlesinger responds to the question, “Are Waldorf schools religious?” by writing, “In the sense of subscribing to the beliefs of a particular religious denomination or sect, no. Waldorf schools, however, tend to be spiritually oriented and are based out of a generally Christian perspective. The historic festivals of Christianity are observed in the classrooms and in school assemblies. Classes in religious doctrine are not part of the Waldorf curriculum, and children of all religious backgrounds attend Waldorf schools. Spiritual guidance is aimed at awakening the child’s natural reverence for the wonder and beauty of life.”


His ideas about organic farming…

Biodynamic farming & gardening

Biodynamic agriculture, or biodynamics, comprises an ecological and sustainable farming system, that includes many of the ideas of organic farming (but predates the term). In 1924, a group of farmers concerned about the future of agriculture requested Steiner’s help; Steiner responded with a lecture series on agriculture. This was the origin of biodynamic agriculture, which is now practiced throughout much of Europe, North America, and Australasia. A central concept of these lectures was to “individualize” the farm by bringing no or few outside materials onto the farm, but producing all needed materials such as manure and animal feed from within what he called the “farm organism”. Other aspects of biodynamic farming inspired by Steiner’s lectures include timing activities such as planting in relation to the movement patterns of the moon and planets and applying “preparations”, which consist of natural materials which have been processed in specific ways, to soil, compost piles, and plants with the intention of engaging non-physical beings and elemental forces. Steiner, in his lectures, encouraged his listeners to verify his suggestions scientifically, as he had not yet done.

The early decades of the twentieth-century agriculture started using inorganic fertilizers such as nitrogen “condensed” from the air and subsequently applied to the fields. Steiner believed that the introduction of this chemical farming was a very detrimental. Stating “Mineral manuring is a thing that must cease altogether in time, for the effect of every kind of mineral manure, after a time, is that the products grown on the fields thus treated lose their nutritive value. It is an absolutely general law.”  Steiner was convinced that the quality of food in his time had degraded, and he believed the source of the problem was chemical farming’s use of artificial fertilizers and pesticides, however he did not believe this was only because of the chemical or biological properties relating to the substances involved, but also due to spiritual shortcomings in the whole chemical approach to farming. Steiner considered the world and everything in it as simultaneously spiritual and material in nature, an approach termed monism. He also believed that living matter was different from dead matter. In other words, Steiner believed synthetic nutrients were not the same as their more living counterparts.

The name “biologically dynamic” or “biodynamic” was coined by Steiner’s adherents. A central aspect of biodynamics is that the farm as a whole is seen as an organism, and therefore should be a closed self-nourishing system, which the preparations nourish. Disease of organisms is not to be tackled in isolation but is a symptom of problems in the whole organism.

Although the number biodynamic farms in the world is relatively small, as of 2006 about one quarter of the farms in India have adopted biodynamic practices.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodynamic_agriculture

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Posted: 26 April 2008 12:29 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Faust - 26 April 2008 12:16 AM

Laurel,
I did not see anything in article that said he was Jewish?

From your original article at Wikipedia:

Attacks, illness and death

The arson had a context. Threats had been made publicly against the Goetheanum [18], and against Steiner himself[19] by right-wing nationalists.

Reacting to the catastrophic situation in post-war Germany, Steiner had gone on extensive lecture tours promoting his social ideas of the Threefold Social Order, entailing a fundamentally different political structure; he suggested that only through independence of the cultural, political and economic realms could such catastrophes as the World War be avoided. He also promoted a radical solution in the disputed area of Upper Silesia - claimed by both Poland and Germany -; his suggestion that this area be granted at least provisional independence led to his being publicly accused of being a traitor to Germany.[20]

In 1919, the political theorist of the National Socialist movement in Germany, Dietrich Eckart, attacked Steiner and suggested that he was a Jew.[21] In 1921, Adolf Hitler attacked Steiner in an article in the right-wing “Völkischen Beobachter” newspaper, including accusations that Steiner was a tool of the Jews,[22] and other nationalist extremists in Germany were calling up a “war against Steiner”. The 1923 Beer Hall Putsch in Munich led Steiner to give up his residence in Berlin, saying that if those responsible for the attempted coup [Hitler and others] came to power in Germany, it would no longer be possible for him to enter the country; [23] he also warned against the disastrous effects it would have for Central Europe if the National Socialists came to power.[24]

The loss of the Goetheanum affected Steiner’s health seriously. From 1923 on, he showed signs of increasing frailness and illness. He continued to lecture widely, and even to travel; especially towards the end of this time, he was often giving two, three or even four lectures daily for courses taking place concurrently. On the one hand, many of these were for practical areas of life: education, curative eurythmy, speech and drama. On the other hand, Steiner began a new, extensive series of lectures presenting his research on the successive lives of various individuals, and on the technique of karma research generally.[25]

By autumn, 1924, however, he was too weak to continue; his last lecture was held in September of that year. He died on March 30, 1925.

Was it true? I have no clue.

God bless,
Laurel

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Posted: 26 April 2008 12:36 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Laurel,

Thanks. It seems most likely that it was not true. I was focusing on his theories on ethics, education, art, agriculture, and health and missed that.

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