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State kidnaps over 500 women and children of the FLDS Church
Posted: 20 April 2008 11:52 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 31 ]
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I am starting to think this Rozita Swinton is being set up…

A 33-year-old Colorado Springs woman who may have sparked a massive child-protection raid at a polygamist compound in Texas kept a steady job and gave no hint of her activities to those closest to her.

This sounds so much like descriptions of other fed-framed folks who allegedly “go postal.”

Swinton would call Jessop after 8:30 p.m. and speak in a subdued voice because she said that is when others in the compound were sleeping.

“She was very convincing,” Jessop said. “She very much thought this out.”

The person obviously had studied the FLDS culture, she said.

Denver Post has the complete article:

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_8987062.

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Posted: 21 April 2008 12:21 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 32 ]
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kinswoman,

Yes, there is something odd about the case of Rozita Swinton. Someone was feeding information, how did a black girl know the information to make up this story?  Who wrote the script this women read?

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Posted: 21 April 2008 12:41 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 33 ]
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With voice analysis, can’t it be determined whether it was Rozita’s voice or not? Not that someone trying to hide who really made those calls would do so, but I thought that was possible to do…

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Posted: 21 April 2008 12:55 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 34 ]
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kinswoman,

Yes it is just sad. One of the network news morning shows did a story attacking and making fun of the way these women dress and keep their hair. My first though on seeing these women was how beautiful they looked. The former church member they interviewed complained the other student thought she looked strange when she went to college. I read another interview with this women. She was married at 16, but went to high school and then went college and go a degree. She spent much of the time talking about sex. She said the wives did get along and did not like her husband, so she took her children and left. And then she talked about how much she loves to fornicate with her new boyfriend and go disco dancing. Her daughter re-joined the FLDS church as soon as she came of age. 

kinswoman - 20 April 2008 02:58 PM

The mental images and opinions being shaped by the visual media coverage are more than disconcerting. Modestly dressed white women with long hair, little girls who don’t act or look like Britney Spears, dads present, boys who aren’t slouching around with their eyes half closed and their gluteals hanging out, not public schooled.....Hey! That could almost be MY family!!!!! I am aware of a sneaking feeling rising up inside that I have to justify myself everytime we are in public. Yes, the community snitches are being well conditioned to serve faithfully in rooting out elements harmful to the NEW AMERIKA… “for the sake of the children,” of course.

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Posted: 21 April 2008 06:52 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 35 ]
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Faust - 21 April 2008 12:55 AM

Yes it is just sad. One of the network news morning shows did a story attacking and making fun of the way these women dress and keep their hair. My first though on seeing these women was how beautiful they looked. The former church member they interviewed complained the other student thought she looked strange when she went to college.

I, too, thought the ladies and their young daughters looked lovely.

Pastel flowers.

When I think of modern fashions, I often think of the old Oscar Wilde quote: “Fashion is something so ugly they have to change it every six months.”

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Posted: 22 April 2008 11:10 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 36 ]
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kinswoman,

Now this is just odd… Rozita Swinton is an Obama Delegate…

NNN forum reporter scoops Denver Post - Denver Post Confirms Fake ‘Sarah’ Is Obama Delegate

A 33-year-old black woman may have sparked a massive child-protection raid at a polygamist compound in Texas. “She is the last person I would expect to do something like this,” said a woman who described herself as the roommate of Rozita Swinton. Growing evidence indicates Swinton repeatedly made fake calls to authorities in multiple jurisdictions, setting off large emergency responses that sometimes involved dozens of police officers. The Texas Ranger Division of the Texas Department of Public Safety confirmed Friday that Swinton was a person of interest in calls placed to a crisis hotline by someone claiming to be Sarah, a 16-year-old girl who had been sexually abused and beaten by a 50-year-old polygamous husband. -

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_8987062

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http://www.newnation.vg/forums/showthread.php?t=125885

Is This The Same Rozita Swinton Who Is A Colorado Obama CD5 Delegate?
http://www.newnation.vg/forums/showpost.php?p=242184&postcount=4

She told authorities she was 16-year-old white victim of ‘polygamous racist cult’
In her little baby voice, she said, ‘If you rescue me, and I get out of here, do you think the black people will hurt me?’

http://www.newnation.vg/forums/showpost.php?p=242414&postcount=7

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Posted: 22 April 2008 07:04 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 37 ]
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Curiouser and curiouser, as Alice said when she was in the rabbit hole.

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Posted: 24 April 2008 07:49 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 38 ]
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A couple of blog comments…

We don’t know exactly who she is, or what connection she has to a polygamist sect in western Texas, but we do know that she is not a 16-year old girl named Sarah that called a child abuse hotline while being locked in a basement within the compound. In reality, she is a 33-year old woman, who made the phone call from somewhere in Colorado Springs, with a cell phone that has a Nashville area code.

A regular poster at American Renaissance thinks that she was opposed to white people having large families, so she made up an identity and a story and phoned it in. I’m not sure about that, but if there are any criminal charges that come down because of this raid, they might all be in danger in court because of the questionable tip.

Also, the girls and young women removed from the compound would have probably been better off at the compound than in DFS/CPS custody. Often times, they’re more abusive towards children than the abusers.

http://countenance.wordpress.com/2008/04/19/who-is-rozita-swinton/

Hmm, what reason would an african american, Swinton, have for seeking to maliciously ruin the lives of THESE 400+ white kids??..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blacks_and_Mormonism#Fundamentalist_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter_Day_Saints

answer- She was`nt trying to `help` anyone, nor is she `crazy`, she was trying to get back at a group because they have a membership policy that EXCLUDES BLACKS, which is very well known to the few blacks in the western mountain states. She found a way to set them up for revenge.. which im sure the mainstream media will go to any extreme never to mention.

These FLDS people are nutty by our standards, BUT their daughters arent on ``GIRLS GONE WILD`` flashing their tits for a pornographer who sells the tapes to the pious gentlmen in OUR communitys, and advertises it all over OUR tv channels. Not happening in FLDS,..I didnt see a blade of grass out of place on their land, no trash, no homeless laying about, no slums, no race riots.. which of the two communities has the real problems, theirs or OURS? They are in the middle of the desert minding there own business,.. how many pregnant 14 year olds are running around every public housing project in Houston alone??… 500-1,000? Why is no one taking them from there crack-head, never-married, never worked, mothers, but the white kids all need to be placed in internment camps.

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6947030642433255327&postID=5471208734531196149&isPopup=true

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Posted: 24 April 2008 09:43 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 39 ]
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I don’t think they’re nutty at all. I admire them. They are religiously deceived, but I’d put them at the head of the list of people I’d want to be my neighbors, alongside the Amish, who also have some beliefs we think are odd, such as extreme pacifism.

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Posted: 24 April 2008 09:54 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 40 ]
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I think the depth of my reaction to the monstrous excision of their children from the nest of their homes indicates my admiration for White people who love and protect their children, including those who are religiously deceived.

The fact that the Texas CPS has not stopped their march to gain custody of the children after the revelations in the press indicates that they really don’t care if the original call was real or not; they have made up their minds and are hellbent on destroying these families.

Many years ago I met a man whose heritage was the original polygamous Mormons who moved to Mexico when the mainstream Mormon church in the US outlawed polygamy. While he did not practice polygamy, living in the United States and all, he showed no signs of having been horribly harmed by the experience of having five “moms”, but functioned in a sane and normal manner, successful in his profession and willing to talk about his background.

When CPS makes up its collective mind, look out.

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Posted: 24 April 2008 10:28 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 41 ]
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John Marshall,

Yes, I agree with you. The blog comments were not made by me, I thought they did make some good points. The people who live near the these the members of this church in AZ have never had any trouble from them and say they are nice people.

John Marshall - 24 April 2008 09:43 PM

I don’t think they’re nutty at all. I admire them. They are religiously deceived, but I’d put them at the head of the list of people I’d want to be my neighbors, alongside the Amish, who also have some beliefs we think are odd, such as extreme pacifism.

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Posted: 24 April 2008 10:36 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 42 ]
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Texas court: State can take sect children to foster homes
http://www.cbs8.com/stories/story.125947.html

SAN ANGELO, Texas—Dozens of mothers from a polygamist retreat were bused away from their children Thursday, their legal efforts to stay united rejected as Texas officials sort out their massive custody case.

Two buses took the women from the San Angelo Coliseum, where they had been temporarily housed with their children. Texas officials were preparing to move the last of more than 400 children to group homes, shelters and residences, some hundreds of miles away, over the next few days.

One woman held a handwritten sign out the bus window that read: “SOS. Mothers separated. Help.”

Monstrous, what is being done to these families.

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Posted: 24 April 2008 10:45 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 43 ]
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Laurel,

Yes, it is monstrous and sickening. It is making me physically ill to think about this case. What kinswoman said earlier is all too true…

kinswoman - 18 April 2008 09:21 PM

After seeing pictures of Mexican and Black men in law enforcement uniforms herding all these White women and children onto buses, now this! Where is a countryman’s community of men to rise up and say, “ENOUGH! Return the children to their parents!” But we’re an abomi-Nation, now, and spy on each other and betray one another to the “government.” I am physically ill.

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Posted: 25 April 2008 09:33 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 44 ]
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I just wanted to note that the media dwelling so much on the “Polygamist Fashion” is a way to divert attention away from the uncomfortable conversation about the conflict of values between traditionalist cultures and modern ones. Nothing these people are doing is exceptionable historically, and have been practiced to much good since the beginning of time. I love the reaction to the Hope Chest. A century ago they were common among quite ordinary young women who came from quite “normal” families. This is all prior to our disposable culture where we don’t make, save, conserve, and hope, but rather we buy, discard, betray, and critique. Now they are a “bizarre” oddity. It’s things like this that make me very sad sometimes -to see how far from sanity our people are.

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Posted: 25 April 2008 02:50 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 45 ]
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John Marshall,

Yes, you are very Right. That is why I post the quotes from the articles about the hope chest and dress. The reason why the state hates FLSD Church is they are White Europeans, who have children and live outside of state control. It is very sad how far down hill our people have gone in such a short time.

John Marshall - 25 April 2008 09:33 AM

I just wanted to note that the media dwelling so much on the “Polygamist Fashion” is a way to divert attention away from the uncomfortable conversation about the conflict of values between traditionalist cultures and modern ones. Nothing these people are doing is exceptionable historically, and have been practiced to much good since the beginning of time. I love the reaction to the Hope Chest. A century ago they were common among quite ordinary young women who came from quite “normal” families. This is all prior to our disposable culture where we don’t make, save, conserve, and hope, but rather we buy, discard, betray, and critique. Now they are a “bizarre” oddity. It’s things like this that make me very sad sometimes -to see how far from sanity our people are.

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