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Posted: 01 November 2008 11:46 AM   [ Ignore ]
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I ran across a wn site advocating ‘little europes’ through group migration.  Has anyone else heard of this?  What do you think?  Can we make some common cause with whites who are racially aware, though not christian, perhaps as a missionary effort directed at our own?  If this has been debated here before I apologize in advance.. simply direct me to the appropriate thread.  Thanks.

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Posted: 01 November 2008 07:06 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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I have personal experience in this, and the pagans have very hard hearts. Be wary.

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Posted: 01 November 2008 08:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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I have not had experience with this, but would be wary of any mass migration, White or not, in which the majority was not Christian.

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who has read the same web pages as you have, whitentribal.

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Posted: 03 November 2008 06:26 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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whitentribal - 01 November 2008 11:46 AM

I ran across a wn site advocating ‘little europes’ through group migration.  Has anyone else heard of this?  What do you think?  Can we make some common cause with whites who are racially aware, though not christian, perhaps as a missionary effort directed at our own?  If this has been debated here before I apologize in advance.. simply direct me to the appropriate thread.  Thanks.


If you establish your community do it based on the law and to be a Christian community - do not ostracize the pagan anymore than not allowing them to become a portion of it. Let them live in proximity and they can be won by all the virtues of the fruits of your labor.

In all honesty were I in some position of authority over a small community like this I’d probably see the children educated at least as well as the pagan’s in the norse lore - it is cultural and provides some understanding of God.
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Even Paul himself seems to have acknowledged that the pagan classical concept of divinity spoke of the same divinity as Jehovah, albeit imperfectly… in Acts 17:27-29 he quotes a pagan poet who is referring to Jupiter as the God in whom “we live and move and have our being” and also that we are God’s offspring according to the same pagan conception… he doesn’t condemn it, but speaks of it as referring to the same one true God.
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Just beat them at their own game - we understand (or have the capability to anyhow) God in a more perfect way and this isn’t a condemnation of our past, for indeed the Bible is the book of our folk - but there is no salvation or advancement in Loki and Freya (altho she may be an inspirational figure), or Donar. Our salvation is personal, national, racial and pictures us in an evolutionary sense becoming higher biologically (thus racially) and it is that sin which needed to be wiped clean for this to take place; the very thing the norse-followers do not accept.
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Hitler made the following statement which I only partly agree with but it makes the point well enough; “It seems to me that nothing would be more foolish than to re-establish the worship of Wotan. Our old mythology ceased to be viable when Christianity implanted itself. Nothing dies unless it is moribund.”

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Posted: 03 November 2008 11:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Our salvation is personal, national, racial and pictures us in an evolutionary sense becoming higher biologically (thus racially) and it is that sin which needed to be wiped clean for this to take place; the very thing the norse-followers do not accept.

Is that historically pagan or modern?

I hope the radical leftwing genetic engineering eugenics doesn’t have a real root in paganism.

TOQ had an article a while back on cyber brains and genetic engineering. Such technology is without bounds and thus without a structure and thus a very great evil I’d say.

And just as socialism replaces providence thus undermining faith, so too would GE replace creationist orientation and a reliance on providence thus again undermining faith.

Man has bred crops, beasts, and man for millenia; but he has never used GE. Creation has always been the source of all living creatures and the source of man’s soul, and microevolutary steps His method of balance (macroevolution has yet to be explained by the Scientists), but we have never had such awesome power as GE promises to be. Imagine a “great” leader like Dubya or Obama with the power to create at will any creature or citizen he wishes - at best life would be slavery under a prudent ruler, and at worst it’d be sheer chaos and all would be mere creations of man. They might hold some concept of God as being the Creator of the materials, but it would be man, or a creation of man, who ordered those materials. GE is the perfect evil.

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Posted: 04 November 2008 02:50 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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but there is no salvation or advancement in Loki and Freya (altho she may be an inspirational figure), or Donar. Our salvation is personal, national, racial and pictures us in an evolutionary sense becoming higher biologically (thus racially) and it is that sin which needed to be wiped clean for this to take place; the very thing the norse-followers do not accept.

I do not understand this…?

Loki and Freya have never been used as saints for the church. These aren’t even good shadows. If you want to preserve a sense of folk and national identity, why not appeal to the God-centered example of nordic fisher kings, confessors, martyrs, and virgins found in a 2,000 year haliography? There are literally hundreds of saints, and each has a day of beautitude, second birth we can celebrate? The preparation of the Gospel is not looking to pagan idols, but the preaching of the law and the glory of creation that makes us confesses something holy and greater than “man”. Loki and Freya is going ‘backwards’.

Let the pagan live outside the camp. That’s fine. But their Gods and Maypoles cannot be tolerated. They will toxify any future christian inheritance, and if they enter the city they must observe the Lord’s Day and may give offerings to the Lord, but no free speech for them inside the city or territory that’s been consecrated.

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Posted: 05 November 2008 12:17 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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This PLE (Pioneer Little Europe) idea seems to come from StormFront, a strongly white supremacist group with strong connections to David Duke. I think they need to be considered very carefully. Their stuff is very interesting, but they have some pretty aggressive ideologies.

FrSam

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