But is there really a shortage of tradesmen? If there is why have their wages been going down for the last 30 years? I read in one article the salary of machinists has gone down by over 50% in inflation adjusted dollars since 1980. The real problem is jobs with decent pay have been in decline for 30 years, the result young people flood colleges. Education is a good thing but it can not make up for the lack of Companies hiring workers. Now we see even white collar and college educated workers having the jobs eliminated as with case of the McClatchy Company.
Every job category has seen a decline in purchasing power with the tremendous inflation we have experienced in the past 50 years. When I finished a PhD some 40 years ago, I hoped to get a job making $10k per year, that would have been a really good salary. Now don’t laugh so loud, that is rude! When I retired a couple of years ago, making over 10 times that amount, I had little more purchasing power than when I started. Real wages, with inflation removed, have been stagnant or declining for a long time.
The trick today is to have a job that will be there, a job that will not be outsourced or taken away. These are the trades jobs, I think. It is difficult to send a plumbing job to India or an electrical wiring job to S.E. Asia.
Every job category has seen a decline in purchasing power with the tremendous inflation we have experienced in the past 50 years. When I finished a PhD some 40 years ago, I hoped to get a job making $10k per year, that would have been a really good salary. Now don’t laugh so loud, that is rude! When I retired a couple of years ago, making over 10 times that amount, I had little more purchasing power than when I started. Real wages, with inflation removed, have been stagnant or declining for a long time.
I remember being happy to get $7.00/hr out of college in the early 70s. Now that kind of wage is laughable. You’re right, the invisible inflation has caused real purchasing power to decline until today’s sad state.
The trick today is to have a job that will be there, a job that will not be outsourced or taken away. These are the trades jobs, I think. It is difficult to send a plumbing job to India or an electrical wiring job to S.E. Asia.
You make an excellent point here, FrSam. It’s harder to get rid of jobs that need to be done on site. I wonder what some others might be?
I think the way to come up with the areas that cannot be outsourced is to think about what is tied to our land. This includes things in the building and construction trades across the board, jobs in repair and maintenance, jobs in agriculture, jobs in exploiting our natural resources, and jobs serving our people.
Just about anything else can be outsourced. Now that is not to say that other things should be outsourced or ought to be outsourced. If a person is of an entrepreneurial bent and is willing to start a manufacturing business making widgets, there is no reason at all why we should not make widgets right here in the USA. There is no reason at all that widgets have to be an imported item, but it takes the ability to form a company and make it go to enable this to happen. That takes leadership; it is not the role for followers who just want a safe job that cannot be outsourced.
I think the way to come up with the areas that cannot be outsourced is to think about what is tied to our land. This includes things in the building and construction trades across the board, jobs in repair and maintenance, jobs in agriculture, jobs in exploiting our natural resources, and jobs serving our people.
A thought just hit me; would real estate development be an area in which a Kinist could reasonably serve his people? It seems that one could provide multiple jobs in the building and construction trades to like-minded workers and help develop Kinist communities as well.
Just about anything else can be outsourced. Now that is not to say that other things should be outsourced or ought to be outsourced. If a person is of an entrepreneurial bent and is willing to start a manufacturing business making widgets, there is no reason at all why we should not make widgets right here in the USA. There is no reason at all that widgets have to be an imported item, but it takes the ability to form a company and make it go to enable this to happen. That takes leadership; it is not the role for followers who just want a safe job that cannot be outsourced.
Entrepreneurial ability (not to mention funding) is not spread evenly among the populace, regrettably. I wish that was different, but that’s the way it is.
Very true, but some professions have suffered worse than others as I said many trades have lost more than half their purchasing power since 1980. When my parents got out of college; tradesmen were paid more than teachers, not the case anymore.
FrSam - 12 September 2008 10:33 AM
Every job category has seen a decline in purchasing power with the tremendous inflation we have experienced in the past 50 years. When I finished a PhD some 40 years ago, I hoped to get a job making $10k per year, that would have been a really good salary. Now don’t laugh so loud, that is rude! When I retired a couple of years ago, making over 10 times that amount, I had little more purchasing power than when I started. Real wages, with inflation removed, have been stagnant or declining for a long time. The trick today is to have a job that will be there, a job that will not be outsourced or taken away. These are the trades jobs, I think. It is difficult to send a plumbing job to India or an electrical wiring job to S.E. Asia.
Sadly in the cases were jobs cannot be outsourced; “Wetbacks” are imported. As I said to Laurel earlier:
Faust - 06 September 2008 05:48 PM
Laurel, We should remember there were not too many “Wetbacks” in New Orleans before the big Hurricane a few years back. Businesses in the city used the storm an d it’s aftermath as a chance to get rid of European-American and African-American workers and replace them with cheaper illegal aliens from Mexico. I saw a story about an electrician who was sure he and his friends would have three years of more work than they could do New Orleans only to layed off after six weeks and replaced with illegal aliens. For less skilled labors I am sure things are even worse. And of course anyone who complains is a “racist.”
The problem is one would be likely to fall afoul of “civil rights” laws is such an operation, but we must try all path and do what is needed to build communities for our people. You know they don’t seem to bother the N.O.I. (Black Muslims) when they build a real estate development.
Laurel Loflund - 12 September 2008 10:41 PM
A thought just hit me; would real estate development be an area in which a Kinist could reasonably serve his people? It seems that one could provide multiple jobs in the building and construction trades to like-minded workers and help develop Kinist communities as well.
A thought just hit me; would real estate development be an area in which a Kinist could reasonably serve his people? It seems that one could provide multiple jobs in the building and construction trades to like-minded workers and help develop Kinist communities as well.
I think that this is a possibility, but real estate developments are large capital, relatively short term (a few years) projects and then they are done. It would take a wealthy Kinist to do this, and if done successfully, then there would be the need to move on and find another similar project elsewhere to keep the process going. This is not to say that it cannot be done, but it will not be easy.
I’m more inclined to think that Kinist communities will come about by having groups of Kinists agree to move to a selected existing small community and essentially take over. This way, each individual can use their own resources to purchase land, homes, business locations, etc. without the very large capital requirements for a single developer to put it all together. It will take some organization and commitment to the group to pull it off, and at the present time, these are the things that seem to be lacking.
Sadly in the cases were jobs cannot be outsourced; “Wetbacks” are imported.
This is what makes sealing our border so absolutely essential. We must stop the flow of wetback labor into the US if we are ever to regain control of our nation, and in particular our internal labor markets. At the present time, the US is operating like a business with the warehouse wide open to thieves, and no business can make any money that way, it cannot even stay in business very long and that is what is happening to us now
A thought just hit me; would real estate development be an area in which a Kinist could reasonably serve his people? It seems that one could provide multiple jobs in the building and construction trades to like-minded workers and help develop Kinist communities as well.
I think that this is a possibility, but real estate developments are large capital, relatively short term (a few years) projects and then they are done. It would take a wealthy Kinist to do this, and if done successfully, then there would be the need to move on and find another similar project elsewhere to keep the process going. This is not to say that it cannot be done, but it will not be easy.
I’m more inclined to think that Kinist communities will come about by having groups of Kinists agree to move to a selected existing small community and essentially take over. This way, each individual can use their own resources to purchase land, homes, business locations, etc. without the very large capital requirements for a single developer to put it all together. It will take some organization and commitment to the group to pull it off, and at the present time, these are the things that seem to be lacking.
Part of the problem with moving to a small community as you mention are the obvious ones of livelihood, livelihood, and livelihood. As our numbers increase, there will be more options available. Right now, there are people like myself whose livelihood depends on something they don’t even believe in anymore, that is, public education, government based jobs, etc. Some of us must support elderly parents as well.
The young, who haven’t yet been cemented into career locations yet, might have the best hope of moving to a particular location. Others among us must wait some years until retirement, and then boogie on down the road, so to speak.
The real estate development idea was founded on the thought that it could also provide jobs for Kinists in the trades...trying to get a twofer there…
I am certainly not saying that it is not possible to have a Kinist development, but I am saying that finding the capital to do it is a daunting prospect.
If a group of Kinists designated a location to move to, there would undoubtedly be a good bit of work to be done in building new homes and other buildings, and generally adapting the place to the needs of the new people. This is not of the same scale as a brand new development, but it is more sustainable.
The idea would certainly have to be that such a community would be largely self sufficient. This would include having its own education, medical, social systems, etc. so this would provide employment for a lot of the members of the community. It would almost certainly be necessary for the community to have at least one major industry to be held by the workers that would employ a large number of the workers of the town.
Dependent family members can be brought to the new community as well as those who are able bodied. If we wait until everything is convenient, the time will never arrive. There will without doubt be difficult choices to be made, but it can hardly be otherwise.
