Any more name calling by anyone will result in the post that contains it being deleted. We ARE going to keep a civil tone here. I’m afraid I have to insist. If the parties persist, their account will have to be suspended for a time until they cool down. We want to have lively debate here, but it’s gotten a bit too lively. Let’s act like Christians.
In communist Russia, and other places of upheaval, the Christian groups that had consolidated (had exclusive or semi-closed communities, some with communal dining or meeting facilities) were targeted in ways that less obvious groups of believers weren’t. The godless officials wanted the facilities, and hated the facility owners, so gained two objectives when confiscating the property. How will organized, visible community offer de facto protection to kinists in our country, pre- or post-Balkanization? I guess, on the other hand, individuals are now being targeted in ways that groups would not be.
Now we have the newest WACO in Texas with the Mormon “compound” take-over:
Well, polygamy’s not great, but the reasons that the media are giving for this whole thing sound fishy, and no one’s been charged with anything, but around 200 people, mostly children, have been taken from their families because of one anonymous tip that is not panning out?!! I wonder if the nice facilities might have something to do with it. It is disturbing to see such willingness to spy on fellow citizens who haven’t been shown to have broken any law yet…
I posted a bit about the polygamist raid on the front page of Kinism.net this afternoon. I wonder several things about their choice of time and target.
1) could they be attempting to discredit Mormons? My dad seems to think they don’t want Romney to be VP and this might make him look bad, even though there’s no real link.
2) why the heck don’t they go after the Islamic polygamists I know live here in the US, many of whom force unwilling daughters into arranged marriages? Why only the fundamentalist Mormons?
3) Perhaps they are trying to take the attention off of Obama’s religious problems? Distract, delude, destroy…
I doubt the facilities are the prime target, personally. I think government control of religious groups is one of the motives.
They have moved from the very fringe, to the almost mainstream, next…well, could be us, could be the Amish?
You are very Right. I do not endose the FLDS Church but it is the hypocrisy of the Liberals that bothers me. The liberals are for sodomite “marriage” and fornication; why should polygamy bother them? The liberals care nothing about protecting children. A 14 year girl being married is “evil,” 14 year girl being put the pill and being passed around by teenage perverts is “normal.” If any of these girls end up in the foster care system they will suffer much worse abuse than anything that would have happened in their own family. The reason why the liberal hate the FLDS is; They are white people who live outside the control of the government and the cultural marxists, who have lots of children.
A lot of nasty stores and things have been said about the FLDS sect, much of them may even be true. But they live out in the middle of nowhere and do not bother anyone. They are inbreed don’t even try to get outsiders to join their church. Basically the state enjoys destroying people to prove it’s power and intimidate the populace.
And of course the South East Asian Hmong living in Wisconsin are free engage in polygamy and child marriage with out fear of the state bothering them and get lost of welfare payments too.
kinswoman - 07 April 2008 12:23 AM
Now we have the newest WACO in Texas with the Mormon “compound” take-over:
Well, polygamy’s not great, but the reasons that the media are giving for this whole thing sound fishy, and no one’s been charged with anything, but around 200 people, mostly children, have been taken from their families because of one anonymous tip that is not panning out?!! I wonder if the nice facilities might have something to do with it. It is disturbing to see such willingness to spy on fellow citizens who haven’t been shown to have broken any law yet…
Faust,
Exactly what my husband and I were talking about. It is fine legally to mate with about anything or group of anythings in our country, but these folks, who apparently at least take care of their own without government aid, who’ve had NO CHARGES brought against ANYONE, are being rounded up and shipped out to who knows where with the help of those clergy response team churches (or so we’re told). Are there no non-LDS family members they can place the children with? There’s more to this than we’re hearing.
Yes it is sickening. The Waco raid was done to coincided with the hearing in which the BATF was to ask for more funding in the federal budget. Has the US gone down to the level of the Roman Empire where people are attacked by the state for show? Today there are likely 20,000,000 illegal aliens in the US, damaging our economy and causing great social unrest and crime. AK-47 wielding gangs are roaming the streets of the city where I live in the Southwest. Why is the state wasting time and money by attacking this very small sect?
