Is there a type of organization that fits our type of people. One that all would be made to feel apart of? One that would generate a sense of belonging to something larger. One that would make us feel that we could not only thrive under but also pass on to the next generation? Be this some form of a group, mini-gov’t, or?
The entity that fulfills your ideals is: “people” - not really an “organization.” In your listed criteria you perfectly have described “nation” or “people.” Our identity as a people has eroded and no longer seems to suffice. However, I doubt that the deficiency can be remedied by any organization of our device. That is the trouble with activism of any sort: The cultural reality of “nation” or “people” cannot be manufactured by a handful of activists. Individuals can perceive that the cultural reality is lost, however, individuals - nor any organization of individuals - cannot manipulate the masses into restoring it. We must live and act in wisdom and maturity, and trust in the sovereignty of God - who determines our appointed times, and the boundaries of our habitation. The mind of a man plans his way, but the Lord directs his steps.
Thanks for your post scm. But I don’t think that answers the question here. That kind of sounds a little like there is no such thing as any type of future coming together as a people. Blacks, Mexicans, jews, and all people of color already answer to call of their blood and support it and protect it, and many times with a vengence. Put white people in a life threatening situation and they’ll not only come together quickly, they’ll run together quickly. That is called basic instincts to survive. All humans have it and it in instinctual. We used to honor our blood and there really is not a reason today why we can’t now.
What I am talking about is doing something about uniting before any negative situation happens. I know the south historically has a celtic past and people united under they clans in the early days. I personally feel we in this forum must have a lot in common or we wouldnt’ be spending time here. Any thoughts on how we as a people can come together before we possibly would have to come together under a stressful life threatening situation?
Y’know, since LoS has endorsed Kinism in the most official capacity of any thinktank to date, I’d expect them to have some emphasis on this question you’re now raising but they don’t seem to be playing that tune just yet. They’re still occupied with the precursor to it—persuading others to the graces of the old southern civilization. By and large that’s what most Kinist blogs boil down to as well—a polemic comparison of the old and new, an Elijah-like wager.
But you’re asking about a course of action to be pursued beyond the thresholds of our respective domeciles—you’re talking about Survivalism, which is in itself a very broad subject, encompassing politics, commerce, contracts, and even certain ecclesiastical implications. Nationalist groups have been preoccupied with atleast some of these issues for quite awhile now; their biggest and brightest idea heretofore seems to have been the Northwest Migration but based on the reception this idea received in the last thread its clear that Kinism (or Kinists) is (are) intent on keeping itself south of the Mason Dixon. While I may question the efficacy of the strategy, I can in no way begrudge the conviction of those who ‘live or die with Dixie’. (...now I’m off topic, sorry…)
Interestingly enough, the Christian Exodus to SC has begun simultaneous to the Aryan Nations’ headquarters relocation to SC. These groups are quite congenial to one another and may yet prove to compose a spearhead to cessesion. What do you think?
Interesting post Ehud. What I am talking about is not exactly survivalism but the continuity and even thrivism if you will of our people, but also with the ever watchful eye on survivalism “IF” need be. I sign on to the fact that a smart people wish to not just survive but to thrive within their respective communities. Therein lies the challenge. Be successful in our lives but ready for extreme situations that might befall us in the future. Now that necessarily does not call for a relocation. A group can be united without picking up stakes and moving. But this same group should be flexible and strong enough to be able to adapt to extreme situations that might arise in the future.
Right now we “as kninists” are weak, disconnected, directionless, and scattered at best. Time is not on our side as the tides of illegal and legal immigration continue to grow within the borders of this country. Those who care enough about our blood will adapt and change. Those who are content with their current situation will not.
I personally feel we need to unite in some organizational form acceptable to the majority because we know we cannot make all happy all the time. Therein lies the idea of sacrifice for the greater good of our people.
Maybe the question is, is our blood important enough to us on this day and during this age to begin thinking and operating as a distinct and separate people with a common and distinct culture?
I think we must organize on a localist level to gain chairs on city councils, fill local law enforcement with our people, form armed neighborhood watch patrols under a local militia (all of this would require of course the support of Kinist-promoted clergy and legal proffessionals) from that bedrock we might realistically have a shot.
Ehud, all you said is true and should be done but again, imagine the whites actually banding together and protecting themselves. I can hear the clarion call of racism to the mountain tops already. And then we would be mixing with non-kinists and basically defeating our purpose of unification. Most whites do not think as we do and again promote the multiculturalism of today.
If we as kinists cannot come together then who is it we can unite with?
If anything can be made of myself and MBK’s row is that there are strong feelings for southern soil. Southerners were for the most part celtic scots-irish and we have a natural strong attachment to soil. This should be taken into account when deciding on a home base for some possible (I did say possible) type of future organization for kinists.
I feel some sort of beginning and coming together can only enhance our knowledge, promote our strength in numbers, and provide a type of security knowing we are not alone. I will say though that for some reason whites no longer have this blood connection as the other races do. We used to have it but I think it was socially engineered out of us by the gov’t, media, and schools in this country. It’s a mind set and can be reacquired with a proper understanding.
I think that is the key here. Reacquire our blood connection to eachother. As the jews, mexicans, and blacks operate with their blood first in their actions and emotions we must again learn this. Blacks will travel hundreds of miles to support 6 monsters that stomped some poor white kid into the ground. That is strength my friends. Jews will march on DC and in fact anywhere at the drop of the hat to defend their religion and people. Mexicans will travel in packs for support and protection. Even the Asians create little Tokyo and Chinatown neighborhoods.
But there stands the white man all by himself full knowing he must act alone in most situations. A people/group will always be stronger than the individual. It is the group that wins against the individual every time. It is the group that takes over your neighborhood, not the individual. It is the group that creates a position of strength in everything i.e. gangs, protests, and migration and even in elections. The brave individual will lose every time against the group. Not sure how anyone can miss the logic here.
So we will come together as group to form a position of strength or we will continue to do what we always do and operate individually and separately and be subject to the whims of the opposing group.
Y’know, since LoS has endorsed Kinism in the most official capacity of any thinktank to date, I’d expect them to have some emphasis on this question you’re now raising but they don’t seem to be playing that tune just yet. They’re still occupied with the precursor to it—persuading others to the graces of the old southern civilization. By and large that’s what most Kinist blogs boil down to as well—a polemic comparison of the old and new, an Elijah-like wager.
But you’re asking about a course of action to be pursued beyond the thresholds of our respective domeciles—you’re talking about Survivalism, which is in itself a very broad subject, encompassing politics, commerce, contracts, and even certain ecclesiastical implications. Nationalist groups have been preoccupied with atleast some of these issues for quite awhile now; their biggest and brightest idea heretofore seems to have been the Northwest Migration but based on the reception this idea received in the last thread its clear that Kinism (or Kinists) is (are) intent on keeping itself south of the Mason Dixon. While I may question the efficacy of the strategy, I can in no way begrudge the conviction of those who ‘live or die with Dixie’. (...now I’m off topic, sorry…)
Interestingly enough, the Christian Exodus to SC has begun simultaneous to the Aryan Nations’ headquarters relocation to SC. These groups are quite congenial to one another and may yet prove to compose a spearhead to cessesion. What do you think?
I did not get the impression that Christian Exodus and Aryan Nations were mutually congenial, but I could certainly be mistaken. Aryan Nations appears to be, at least on the surface, an anti-Christian organization, not least in the predominant mentality of its members.
My belief is that Kinism is not an ideology in the strict sense. The way to be a Kinist is to live like one:
Homeschool your kids and support homeschooling
Ensure your curriculum advocates Western pre-industrial values and culture.
Grow as much as you can and try to buy local where you can’t
Support the aims of Theonomy
Support/advocate a return to either republicanism or monarchy and eschew direct democracy
Try to foster a love of agriculture, eschew materialism and capitalism as ungodly.
Advocate a return to hard money and barter
Support groups that advocate for ethnic nationalism and immigration control
Eschew all forms of imperialism
Teach all the above to your children and support our activities here
Attend a Bible-believing church that either openly or tacitly eschews interracial marriage
If the former is unavailable, home church
Conduct family worship and steep your kids in the Bible
If you vote, vote your conscience and not pragmatically
Expose corruption in Government and decry Plutocracy
etc., etc.
If you DO Kinism, Kinist organizations will take care of themselves. The Lord will raise up leaders if He honors what we do. This website is the result of the efforts of people who want to create something larger than themselves. That’s why we’re here. We’re poorly funded and disorganized, but we’re here doing what we can. Exile to Idaho? I dunno. Seems like Kinism is needed everywhere.
Above all, we need to continue to emphasize the historically rooted nature of what we stand for, and to insist that it is out of love and conservation that we believe what we do, and that we are not motivated by the hatred of anything except evil, in whatever form, and that includes money capitalism, which has drained the soul out of the West and made the Church the handmaiden of worldly values.
If you want an organization. THIS one is as good as any.
John,
That is quite a post on kinism ideology and living like one. I advocate and believe in every point you made, even the point on Monarchy. My reasoning here in the forum for developing a more organized group as Ehud also advocates is really the numbers game. We are totally outnumbered here and it seems to go without saying there is strength in numbers.
Further, a multiculturalist nation can only be held together by money. Once the money goes, so goes all the sentimental thoughts on the glories of diversity, and then comes the scramble for a piece of the ever shrinking pie. A multiculturalist nation cannot be held together by a common culture, not religion, not language, not even skin, because they are all different. Only money and wealth can keep the races off eachothers backs.
Why do we know this to be true?
Who here would walk into a black or mexican neighborhood at night right now?
Envision taking that same walk during a depression during the day if you dare.
I personally feel the current corrupt stewards of this nation are going to bankrupt the country. Let’s face it, they are spending like they want to do that. If anyone’s been following the story, the powers that be wish to unite Canada, Mexico, and the U.S. into a similiar European Union type territory. The currency they wish to create for this union will be called the Amero = dollar/peso/loonie. To get us to accept the Amero, the dollar has got to really turn everyone off, so, make it worthless.
The blacks, mexicans, jews, and other races are already united by blood so they have the advantage in an extreme situation. We kinists as you can witness right here in this forum have trouble even thinking about uniting for any reason. Basic math here, the group will always win over the individual. Not difficult to understand.
I’m not saying pick up and move but we should begin building an cohesive infrastructure to not only promote and assist us in our lifstyle but also if things do get nasty we have a organizational structure already in place to aid us in guidance and direction.
I too agree with the points you posit above JM but speaking as someone who already actively pursues said tenets, I’m now concerned with the ‘numbers game’ I suppose because there’s no actual community to be had in certain parts of the country. While I do consider my family its own microcosmic community, we, for the sake of both principle & survival, have become rather isolated from the people who live near us. Mind you, I live in an expensive gated community but nonetheless, the very best of our neighbors (angry Muslims & angrier Queers) remain a threat to me & mine. Such is bound to be an ever more common result if we donot begin to acknowledge and pursue White Christian community on a regional basis.
And I call the Aryan Nations ‘congenial’ to Christian Exodus based on their definitive assent to Christianity (even if its of the ‘Identity’ variety) & beyond that, their near identity of social aims: Localist-theonomic-Nationalism. Sure, some of them have bad haircuts & misplaced affections toward European Facsism of the 1940s but they would nonetheless stand shoulder to shoulder with us against the atheists, femists, zionists, NWO types and all of the other overt enemies of our people. Alliances with them strike me as akin to alliances with Baptists—they’ve a few squirrely theological ideas but they’re good folk overall.
The mindset of the kinists in this forum seems to be of the non-violent, non-race hating type. From my experience they/we may have some distrust of other races, and, or even some may have a warranted fear, but they are not the type to break the law in anyway. Otherwise they would have joined the KKK or Aryan Nations. I believe for the most part a kinist wants to emphasize the postiveness with regards to his race as opposed to dwelling on the negative side of other races. That being said I am not saying a kinist would not defend himself if the situation called for it.
So what these kinists need is the proper vehicle to organize in. A type of organization that is not violent, hateful, or doesn’t appear to be confrontational to the other races or to the law. A group that has no negative racial risks involved when joining.
Folks, what is needed here is the formation of a Scottish Clan. One of the symbols can be the celtic cross John has put on the site here. Why a Scottish Clan? Simply because there are so many Scottish Clans already in America so what’s the big deal with one more? Safety in numbers my friends. Scottish Clans are a european creation so white people are the members of these clans and are in fact expected to the the members, therefore eliminating the race problem of whites in a group. Scottish clans are a blood organization by name so we could be a little more liberal and just make it a Scottish Clan based not on name but on blood. Shoot we’d even look more liberal by doing that.
Simply put, we would be in an accepted blood based group within the borders of this country with no historical negative racial baggage to start with.
A Scottish Clan, eh? Its a decent public relations strategy but I think it might ultimately be confabulated with others such as the ‘Keltic Klann Kirk’ (KKK). Even if inappropriate, the comparison would be innevitable. But still, such doesn’t diminish the relative value of the approach. Infact, we already have certain extant social organizations which facilitate such a P.R. campaign: The League of The South & The Council of Conservative Citizens. Both groups embrace general tenets of Kinism but demure somewhat from declaring them to be the Creed of their organizations.
But tell me, don’t you think that success of such an approach would eventually ‘out’ the ambitions of such groups? Once the media got wind of the fact, they would scream to high heaven that ours’ was a ‘front group’ for clandestine Racists. It would nicely comport to their cookie-cutter impression of smoke-filled back-rooms and covert bunker meetings…20/20, Oprah & every other media entity would be all over it.
Well lets face it Ehud, being white in America means you have two racial strikes against you just for being born. We are never going to get around that one.
My friends there is much more involved here than just joining together in some type of group. We as kinists need to understand we must be defined by our culture and then use it to strengthen us and facilitate cohesion within our people for the long term. We cannot just to jump on the kinist train and expect social and cultural cohesion immediately. There must be an agreed upon defining culture to support us or we will splinter at the first sign of stress and trouble.
Now all here follow me if you will on this. We couldn’t be an Italian clan because we are not all Italians. We couldn’t be a German or Irish clan because we do not all have the racial commonality with the Germans or Irish. But we could be a “southern-scottish” clan for two reasons. The first is the south is a geographical territory not a race. All europeans were and still are represented in the south so its can be seen as culturally natural for all european kinists to assume the southern culture. Basically the south is not a racial culture, its a european culture in the southern states of America. Secondly, the south was settled predominantly by the Scots-Irish (or people of the Scottish Clans) so we can acquire the much needed blood connection through using the vehicle of the scottish clan to bring us together racially in a peaceful and non-threatening way. Hence the two part strategy of marrying the southern culture to the organization of the Scottish Clan to accomplish our goal of cultural social cohesion.
Again, I cannot emphasize this enough. We must be defined and united by our culture or we will never have what it takes to endure as a people fro the long term. The southern celtic culture already exists so we do not have to make anything up here, we just sign onto it and move forward developing ourselves through this cultural vehicle of a southern scottish clan.
Lastly there is strength in the center of everything. So we must strive to be in the center of our culture and that means not halfway commited by hanging on the outer edges of it where it is so easy just to fall off and away, but true representatives living and thriving in the center of our culture.
In communist Russia, and other places of upheaval, the Christian groups that had consolidated (had exclusive or semi-closed communities, some with communal dining or meeting facilities) were targeted in ways that less obvious groups of believers weren’t. The godless officials wanted the facilities, and hated the facility owners, so gained two objectives when confiscating the property. How will organized, visible community offer de facto protection to kinists in our country, pre- or post-Balkanization? I guess, on the other hand, individuals are now being targeted in ways that groups would not be.
Good point Kinswoman. The answer here is we are not in Communist Russia. Now that being said you still made a valid point about security of this proposed group. Obvioiusly there is some risk but the idea of this clan is to reduce that factor as much as possible. Meaning, first adopting the southern culture as our cultural connection is no crime and it is practiced currently in various forms all over the south today so we will only be doing what millions of people are already doing. Next and a more important one is adopting the vehicle of the scottish clan to secure our blood connection. Now there are many scottish clans in the south and even in America today so we will be practicing what they are already doing, so the safety in numbers thing applies here and also the scottish clan idea has no historical negative racial baggage associtated with it. This group will emphasize the positive aspects of kinism and not the negative so there again we would be dodging another bullet. Being white in America of course makes us somewhat of a target for hooking up for any reason but following the strategies of adoping a regional culture, joining the ranks of many scottish clans, and operating in a non-threatening peaceful way greatly reducing friction.
