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      <title>Eigen Volk Eerst</title>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font&#45;size:18px;&quot;&gt;Eigen Volk Eerst!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;
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&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font&#45;size:18px;&quot;&gt;Our People First!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;
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Please note: Names and places have been purposely left out and faces removed to protect certain people’s identity due to the rabid, underhanded, and often immortal nature of our opposition.
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General notes: From 1568–1648 the Dutch Protestants fought a long and bloody war against Spain for independence.&amp;nbsp; The Southern quarter of the Dutch people were Catholics however and remained a part of the Spanish holdings after the Northern three fourths gained independence as the Netherlands.&amp;nbsp; Spain then lumped this Catholic Dutch area with their French lowcountry holdings into the rather artificial country of Belgium.&amp;nbsp; The French speaking Southern half of the country is called Wallonia and the Dutch speaking Northern half of the country is called Flanders.&amp;nbsp; After World War II the Belgium government concerned that the dropping birthrate would cause a labour shortage contracted with the king of Morocco to import Moroccans to work in Belgium, most of them have never assimilated.&amp;nbsp; This open border policy has continued with most of the immigrants coming from French West Africa.&amp;nbsp; This has caused a dramatic shift in power away from the Dutch Flemish towards the French Walloons.&amp;nbsp; Wallonia is heavily Left&#45;Wing and continuously votes for Leftist&#45;Socialist parties which transfer wealth from the hard&#45;working Flemish to Wallonia where the unemployment rate is 20%.&amp;nbsp; In spite of this the Walloons continue support more immigrants as this increases their voting power at the expensive of the Flemish.&amp;nbsp; Brussels went from a majority Flemish city in 1950 to less than 10% Flemish as Flemish fled the third&#45;world hordes, and Arabic has now replaced French as the language with the largest number of primary speakers in Brussels.&amp;nbsp; The Flemish have remained solidly Right&#45;Wing and in the last Flemish elections the Flemish Nationalist party, Vlaams Belang, running on a Flemish independence anti&#45;immigration platform received 25% of the vote.
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I flew into Brussels on Thursday, May 1st and from there I caught a northbound train to Antwerp.&amp;nbsp; After the train left the third&#45;world cesspool known as Brussels, I traveled through Flanders’ beautiful countryside; sheep grazed in small fields and the countryside was dotted by villages and small towns.&amp;nbsp; The Flemish being a Dutch people most of their buildings and houses heavily reflect that fact.&amp;nbsp; I arrived at Antwerp Central station after about an hour.
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I caught a taxi to the hotel where I was to meet the two friends from America I would be spending the week with.&amp;nbsp; None of us had realized it when booking the hotel, but the hotel was in the middle of the diamond district which was the Jewish quarter, and the sidewalks were filled funny tall hats, Yakamas, funny coats and shoes, and shaved heads with long curls hanging down past the ears; have you ever seen a Hassidic Jew riding a bicycle?&amp;nbsp; It’s absolutely hilarious.&amp;nbsp; I have less of a dislike of these Jews than the coat and tie variety since these Jews keep to themselves, however the whole thing was ironic nonetheless.
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Here are some pictures of Antwerp from my 7th story balcony of my hotel room.&amp;nbsp; Notice the older beautiful houses and churches and the newer ugly apartment and commercial buildings; we’re fairly certain that beautiful architecture was outlawed in Europe after 1945, probably something to do with the “Holocau$t”.
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I arrived in Antwerp about 30 minutes before a big Vlaams Belang rally (the Flemish Nationalist Party and the people we were there to meet and hang out with) and so I jumped in a taxi and headed out.&amp;nbsp; The taxi driver was surprised, to say the least, that an American knew anything about Flemish politics and, what’s more, cared.&amp;nbsp; We talked about Vlaams Belang in some detail during the drive and he said he voted for them for 20 years until he got a Black girlfriend, race&#45;traitor.
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The Vlaams Belang several hundred people packed into the Hendrik Conscience Plaza honouring Hendrik Conscience a Flemish writer who in 1830 wrote a book called “The Lion of Flanders”, the book which started the Flemish Nationalist movement and is still it’s center point in some ways.&amp;nbsp; The Lion of Flanders was Count Robert III who in 1302 led the Flemish army in a crushing victory against the French forces invading Flanders at the Battle of Golden Spurs, a sort of Flemish version of William Wallace.&amp;nbsp; The rally was in Dutch and so even though I can’t understand what they were saying I could understand what they were talking about, crime, immigration, taxes, etc., because of the Germanic linguistic similarities.&amp;nbsp; Some pictures from the edge of the rally:
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The Vlaams Belang had placed a placed a sign with the statue of Hendrik Conscience and had laid a wreath beneath it.
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Some more pictures as I moved around to the right and then into the crowd; the writing on the billboard basically means “one million votes ‘08”:
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After three speeches made by top Vlaams Belang leadership and then the Flemish nation anthem was sung.&amp;nbsp; Afterwards the crowd broke into chants of “Vlaanderen voor Vlaams!&amp;nbsp; Eigen Volk eerst!” (Flanders for Flemish!&amp;nbsp; Our People first!)
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Here are some pictures of the empty plaza when we came back the next day; just to give you some grasp of the size of it:
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By the time the last speaker ended my two American friends had arrived at the plaza and I got to meet the leader of the VBJ – the Vlaams Belang Youth.&amp;nbsp; Youth in Europe can mean anyone 14 to 30 years old.&amp;nbsp; Everyone from the rally was then directed towards a meeting hall where they could relax and socialize.&amp;nbsp; The whole was very impressively organized; rented buses waited for the majority of the VB people, while the three Americans and the VBJ leader took his car to the meeting hall.&amp;nbsp; The meeting hall itself was rented but the decorations were impressive too.&amp;nbsp; Food, drinks, books, and stickers were available for sale around the edge of the room while tables filled the middle.&amp;nbsp; This is what it looked like before the buses arrived:
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The billboard reads “Time for independence”:
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After the buses arrived:
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We had a great time getting to meet many people from the Vlaams Belang and after most people left we got to pose with some flags and signs.&amp;nbsp; Me holding a Vlaams Belang sign; I’m 6’2 for comparison purposes:
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The three Americans with a VB flag left and a Flanders flag right:
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Continued&#8230;
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;In light of the recent question asked about Kinist reading material, I started browsing the Wiki here on Kinism.net. Its a great resource, I think, and with new members joining, perhaps we could point them in the direction of our wiki to help answer their questions. 
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For example, I created a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kinism.net/index.php?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kinism.net%2Findex.php%2Fwiki%2FAgrarianism%2F&quot;&gt;very brief page for Agrarianism&lt;/a&gt;...if y&quot;all would, check it out and make changes that you believe are necessary.
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;This topic exists to pursue philosophical and biblical exploration of the topic of genetic engineering. The Bible&#8217;s principles speak to all aspects of life, and all aspects of life should be examined in light of scripture.
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This topic was born in the Research Forum under the heading &lt;i&gt;Exposed: the great GM crops myth&lt;/i&gt; (GM crops yield 10% less grain per acre). I have moved some posts from that topic over here because they address an expanded consideration of the ideas at hand.
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Please remember that this is a discussion of human ideas/technologies in light of God&#8217;s word, and we should keep the discussion to ideas rather than personal defense or offense.
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God bless,
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Laurel
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      <title>Essential Reading List for New Kinists&#63;</title>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;I would like to get together a list of books that everyone thinks Kinists ought to be conversant with, and which we&#8217;ll all be a bit more on the same page if we&#8217;ve read. I could recommend a few titles on racialism, I suppose, but I&#8217;d enjoy some titles particularly on the theological justification for the ethno&#45;state. Feel free to mention books on any aspect of Kinism or related subjects, though.
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;&#8220;Microlending Creator Says His Strategy Outshines Immigration&#8221;
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&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Microlending Creator Says His Strategy Outshines Immigration
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Posted By Brenda Walker On 9 March 2008 @ 4:21 In General | Comments Disabled
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On Jan 17 I attended a lecture in San Francisco given by Bangladeshi&#45;born Muhammad Yunus. He is the economist who invented the idea of microlending to help desperately poor people around the world better their lives through developing small businesses. In 1983, he founded the [1] Grameen Bank in Bangladesh to put the concept into practice. He received the [2] Nobel Peace Prize in 2006 and remains a popular figure among anti&#45;poverty activists.
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The crowd must have been around 500, and I was therefore pleased when my immigration&#45;related question was one of the handful chosen to be read.
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When I wrote my article that included mention of the speech ([3] Microlending: The Ticket to Staying Home), the audio file was not yet online so his exact words weren’t available. You can now listen to the whole talk online at [4] this link.
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Here is my transcription of the question and Yunus’ answer, with a little clean&#45;up editing:
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    COMMONWEALTH CLUB: A member of the audience asks this question. With five billion people living in countries poorer than Mexico, don’t you think microlending is a better strategy for tackling poverty than massive immigration…
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    YUNUS: People seek their opportunities if you can attract people with microcredit, keep them in their places, of course they will love that.
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    It’s not fun to leave your home and struggle through all kinds of legal barriers, live like thieves and criminals in another country.
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    [Immigration] is no fun. They do it out of desperation because life is so difficult there, So if we can all make life better where people live, where they were born, where their forefathers lived, then nobody will leave their place.
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    That’s what we’re talking about. Wherever we are, we should be able to get a better life for ourselves. Desperation will push us to do desperate things even at the risk of our own lives.
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There you have it. One of the foremost, most honored humanitarians on the planet [5] agrees with me that microlending is a far [6] better solution to alleviating worldwide poverty than immigration.
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Furthermore, he alluded to the cultural dimension, that people would rather remain in their forefathers’ country than undergo the shock of adjustment to a different society, as long as they can make a decent living and have hope for their children.
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The next time some shallow do&#45;gooders whine that America must open itself up to unlimited poor immigrants because we have too much money ([7] heh), you can quote Muhammad Yunus to them.
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Article printed from VDARE.com: Blog Articles: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kinism.net/index.php?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.vdare.com&quot;&gt;http://blog.vdare.com&lt;/a&gt;
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URL to article: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kinism.net/index.php?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.vdare.com%2Farchives%2F2008%2F03%2F09%2Fmicrolending&#45;creator&#45;says&#45;his&#45;strategy&#45;outshines&#45;immigration%2F&quot;&gt;http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2008/03/09/microlending&#45;creator&#45;says&#45;his&#45;strategy&#45;outshines&#45;immigration/&lt;/a&gt;
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URLs in this post:
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[1] Grameen Bank: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kinism.net/index.php?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.grameen&#45;info.org%2Fbank%2F&quot;&gt;http://www.grameen&#45;info.org/bank/&lt;/a&gt;
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[2] Nobel Peace Prize: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kinism.net/index.php?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fnobelprize.org%2Fnobel_prizes%2Fpeace%2Flaureates%2F2006%2Fyunus&#45;interview.html&quot;&gt;http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/2006/yunus&#45;interview.html&lt;/a&gt;
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[3] Microlending: The Ticket to Staying Home: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kinism.net/index.php?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vdare.com%2Fwalker%2F080123_microloans.htm&quot;&gt;http://www.vdare.com/walker/080123_microloans.htm&lt;/a&gt;
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[4] this link: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kinism.net/index.php?URL=http%3A%2F%2Faudio.commonwealthclub.org%2Faudio%2Fpodcast%2Fcc_20080117_yunus.mp3&quot;&gt;http://audio.commonwealthclub.org/audio/podcast/cc_20080117_yunus.mp3&lt;/a&gt;
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[5] agrees with me: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kinism.net/index.php?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thesocialcontract.com%2Fartman2%2Fpublish%2Ftsc1103%2Farticle_964.shtml&quot;&gt;http://www.thesocialcontract.com/artman2/publish/tsc1103/article_964.shtml&lt;/a&gt;
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[6] better solution: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kinism.net/index.php?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.limitstogrowth.org%2FWEB&#45;text%2Falleviating&#45;pressure.html&quot;&gt;http://www.limitstogrowth.org/WEB&#45;text/alleviating&#45;pressure.html&lt;/a&gt;
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[7] heh: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kinism.net/index.php?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brillig.com%2Fdebt_clock%2F&quot;&gt;http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
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      <title>Watching Another &#8220;Role Model&#8221; Crash and Burn&#8230;</title>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;I&#8217;ve never heard Amy Winehouse sing, so can&#8217;t speak from experience as to whether her music has value.
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Unfortunately, it would appear that, to her, her life has no value. She spends it in rounds of debauchery and tears. I am posting the URL of the article I read about her here:
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kinism.net/index.php?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailymail.co.uk%2Fpages%2Flive%2Farticles%2Fshowbiz%2Fshowbiznews.html%3Fin_article_id%3D561864%26in_page_id%3D1773%26ico%3DHomepage%26icl%3DTabModule%26icc%3Dpicbox%26ct%3D5&quot;&gt;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=561864&amp;amp;in_page_id=1773&amp;amp;ico=Homepage&amp;amp;icl=TabModule&amp;amp;icc=picbox&amp;amp;ct=5&lt;/a&gt;
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However, I would like to recommend that if you have a squeamish stomach, don&#8217;t go to the article, as the photographs of the singer there are truly disturbing. I&#8217;ve never seen anyone so young look so awful.
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God bless,
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      <title>Raw Milk Seller Raided</title>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;YOUR GOVERNMENT AT WORK
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Get cuffed and stuffed, for selling milk
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Rally planned for farmer whose dairy raided by feds
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kinism.net/index.php?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwnd.com%2Findex.php%3Ffa%3DPAGE.view%26pageId%3D63225&quot;&gt;http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=63225&lt;/a&gt;
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&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;A rally has been set for tomorrow in front of the magistrate&#8217;s office in Mt. Holly, Pa., in support of a Mennonite farmer who has brought the wrath of the government on himself for selling raw milk and other products – an act government prosecutors say violates a number of regulations.
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That&#8217;s when the next court hearing is scheduled for Mark Nolt, a Pennsylvania farmer who turned in his state permit to sell raw milk because it didn&#8217;t allow for the sale of the other products he offered.
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&#8220;They swooped in ... like a bunch of Vikings, handcuffed me and stole $30,000 worth of my milk, cheese and butter,&#8221; he told the New York Daily News.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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While I must admit I got a little miffed at the reference to my ancestors (&quot;like Vikings&quot;), it sure does seem as if our government loves to find any reason for restricting our right to healthy food and a lifestyle of our choice.
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The article continues with a positive reference to the Weston A. Price Foundation&#45;&#45;Kinswoman, are you reading?
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&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;His case is just an example of what the government is trying to do to those who believe – based on medical results – that whole milk is better for them than the processed milk available in most grocery stores, according to Nolt&#8217;s supporters.
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Processed milk, many believe, leads to clogged arteries, strokes and heart attacks.
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According to reports published by the Weston A. Price Foundation, results of a study by the Medical Research Council in the United Kingdom revealed only one percent of the subjects in an ongoing lifestyle study of 5,000 men suffered heart attacks – if they drank full&#45;fat milk and ate butter rather than margarine.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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So far CA has allowed raw milk to be sold. But it&#8217;s a battle.
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God bless,
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      <title>The Worldwide Food Crisis</title>
      <link>http://www.kinism.net/index.php/forums/viewthread/110/</link>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;I like to read widely, from many different sources. Even those who basically disagree, or vehemently disagree, with what I believe often have valuable insights on particular topics.
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Over at Global Guerrillas &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kinism.net/index.php?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fglobalguerrillas.typepad.com%2Fglobalguerrillas%2F&quot;&gt;http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/&lt;/a&gt; the blogger is posting on how the global food production system has broken down, and the strains it puts on societies and the world. Here&#8217;s an interesting quote about how ethanol production via corn growing has had some untoward effects as farmers shift from corn for food to corn for ethanol.
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&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;QUOTE: Entropy Production
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&#8220;It&#8217;s hard to believe that in five months our country has gone from a strong commitment to pay any price for energy security to the kind of backlash we&#8217;ve seen against ethanol&#8221; Jon Doggett, a lobbyist for the National Corn Growers Assn (to the LA Times).
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This is what happens when a system&#8217;s ability to dampen shocks fails.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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The blogger goes on to postulate that the laws of thermodynamics cover what is happening in human society right now. I think it&#8217;s somewhat simpler than that.
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Going on as we speak is a global food crisis. For many of us it simply manifests as higher food prices, which blessedly prompt many of us to take up small scale gardening as a way of promoting our own independence from the food production system. For others, most notably in certain third world countries of the African variety, it means starvation because of the lethal combination of lower IQs in the general populace and systemic corruption of the upper classes. This, of course, leads to violence there because the other options never quite seem to occur to the upper classes. And there are other options. Starving Zimbabwe was once Rhodesia, breadbasket of Africa.
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But the current upper classes in Zimbabwe are more concerned with skin color than they are with feeding their own people.
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Whatever. Their choice.
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In most cases it seems simple to me, and probably most Westerners, that despite the failings of our elites, they either care enough about the people of their countries eating regularly, producing happy, full&#45;bellied people (or at least care about having happy &#8220;serfs&#8221; keep them in power), that they will work hard to provide food to them at a vaguely affordable price.
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The upper classes in Africa don&#8217;t seem to have caught on to this. Must be all those Mercedes salesmen keeping them distracted.
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OK, folks, it&#8217;s big question time.
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Should Westerners feel that they are required in the sense of Christian compassion to provide food for starving African nations, most of which envy and hate us because of our skin color and basic success at supplying food and creature comforts to our own people?
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Inquiring minds want to know.
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God bless,
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Laurel
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      <title>Go NorthWest young man&#63;</title>
      <link>http://www.kinism.net/index.php/forums/viewthread/7/</link>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;I just wanted to open the question of the &#8216;Northwest Migration&#8217; to everyone&#45;&#45; what&#8217;s the general concensus? 
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I know that the &#8216;Christian Exodus&#8217; to South Carolina (mostly homeschool full quiver Whites) also shows promise but the NW Migration seems like the more tangible of the two thus far. Any thoughts?
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      <title>State kidnaps over 500 women and children of the FLDS Church</title>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;State kidnaps over 500 women and children of the FLDS Church
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&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Please note none of the members of this forum endorse the FLDS Church or polygamy.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;
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&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;quote_author&quot;&gt;Laurel Loflund &#45; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;Cops Peacefully Enter Polygamist Temple “State troopers armed with a search warrant raided the compound on Friday to look for evidence of a marriage between the girl, who allegedly had a baby at 15, and 50&#45;year&#45;old Dale Barlow.” My do I post this here? Because no one in law enforcement seems inspired to pursue reports of polygamy and arranged marriages in the Islamic community; a clear double standard. 
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kinism.net/index.php?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fapnews.myway.com%2Farticle%2F20080406%2FD8VSDQKG0.html&quot;&gt;http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080406/D8VSDQKG0.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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Update: Judge orders all children out of FLDS compound
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kinism.net/index.php?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sltrib.com%2Fci_8822573&quot;&gt;http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8822573&lt;/a&gt;
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&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;quote_author&quot;&gt;kinswoman &#45; 06 April 2008 11:23 PM&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;In communist Russia, and other places of upheaval, the Christian groups that had consolidated (had exclusive or semi&#45;closed communities, some with communal dining or meeting facilities) were targeted in ways that less obvious groups of believers weren’t. The godless officials wanted the facilities, and hated the facility owners, so gained two objectives when confiscating the property. How will organized, visible community offer de facto protection to kinists in our country, pre&#45; or post&#45;Balkanization? I guess, on the other hand, individuals are now being targeted in ways that groups would not be. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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Now we have the newest WACO in Texas with the Mormon &#8220;compound&#8221; take&#45;over:
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Well, polygamy&#8217;s not great, but the reasons that the media are giving for this whole thing sound fishy, and no one&#8217;s been charged with anything, but around 200 people, mostly children, have been taken from their families because of one anonymous tip that is not panning out?!! I wonder if the nice facilities might have something to do with it. It is disturbing to see such willingness to spy on fellow citizens who haven&#8217;t been shown to have broken any law yet&#8230;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;quote_author&quot;&gt;Laurel Loflund &#45; 06 April 2008 11:30 PM&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;Howdy, Kinswoman!
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&lt;br /&gt;So good to see you here.
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&lt;br /&gt;I posted a bit about the polygamist raid on the front page of Kinism.net this afternoon. I wonder several things about their choice of time and target.
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&lt;br /&gt;1) could they be attempting to discredit Mormons? My dad seems to think they don&#8217;t want Romney to be VP and this might make him look bad, even though there&#8217;s no real link.
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&lt;br /&gt;2) why the heck don&#8217;t they go after the Islamic polygamists I know live here in the US, many of whom force unwilling daughters into arranged marriages? Why only the fundamentalist Mormons?
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&lt;br /&gt;3) Perhaps they are trying to take the attention off of Obama&#8217;s religious problems? Distract, delude, destroy&#8230;
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&lt;br /&gt;I doubt the facilities are the prime target, personally. I think government control of religious groups is one of the motives.
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&lt;br /&gt;They have moved from the very fringe, to the almost mainstream, next...well, could be us, could be the Amish?
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&lt;br /&gt;God bless,
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Laurel&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;quote_author&quot;&gt;Faust &#45; 06 April 2008 11:37 PM&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;kinswoman,
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&lt;br /&gt;You are very Right. I do not endose the FLDS Church but it is the hypocrisy of the Liberals that bothers me. The liberals are for sodomite “marriage” and fornication; why should polygamy bother them? The liberals care nothing about protecting children. A 14 year girl being married is “evil,” 14 year girl being put the pill and being passed around by teenage perverts is “normal.” If any of these girls end up in the foster care system they will suffer much worse abuse than anything that would have happened in their own family. The reason why the liberal hate the FLDS is; They are white people who live outside the control of the government and the cultural marxists, who have lots of children.
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&lt;br /&gt;A lot of nasty stores and things have been said about the FLDS sect, much of them may even be true. But they live out in the middle of nowhere and do not bother anyone. They are inbreed don’t even try to get outsiders to join their church. Basically the state enjoys destroying people to prove it’s power and intimidate the populace.&amp;nbsp; 
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&lt;br /&gt;And of course the South East Asian Hmong living in Wisconsin are free engage in polygamy and child marriage with out fear of the state bothering them and get lost of welfare payments too.
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&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;quote_author&quot;&gt;kinswoman &#45; 06 April 2008 11:23 PM&lt;/div&gt;Now we have the newest WACO in Texas with the Mormon &#8220;compound&#8221; take&#45;over:
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&lt;br /&gt;Well, polygamy&#8217;s not great, but the reasons that the media are giving for this whole thing sound fishy, and no one&#8217;s been charged with anything, but around 200 people, mostly children, have been taken from their families because of one anonymous tip that is not panning out?!! I wonder if the nice facilities might have something to do with it. It is disturbing to see such willingness to spy on fellow citizens who haven&#8217;t been shown to have broken any law yet&#8230;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;quote_author&quot;&gt;kinswoman &#45; 06 April 2008 11:39 PM&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;Laurel, I couldn&#8217;t find your article on the front page &#45; is it under another heading?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;quote_author&quot;&gt;kinswoman &#45; 06 April 2008 11:43 PM&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;Faust,
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Exactly what my husband and I were talking about. It is fine legally to mate with about anything or group of anythings in our country, but these folks, who apparently at least take care of their own without government aid, who&#8217;ve had NO CHARGES brought against ANYONE, are being rounded up and shipped out to who knows where with the help of those clergy response team churches (or so we&#8217;re told). Are there no non&#45;LDS family members they can place the children with? There&#8217;s more to this than we&#8217;re hearing.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;quote_author&quot;&gt;Faust &#45; 07 April 2008 12:18 AM&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;kinswoman,
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&lt;br /&gt;Yes it is sickening. The Waco raid was done to coincided with the hearing in which the BATF was to ask for more funding in the federal budget.&amp;nbsp; Has the US gone down to the level of the Roman Empire where people are attacked by the state for show? Today there are likely 20,000,000 illegal aliens in the US, damaging our economy and causing great social unrest and crime. AK&#45;47 wielding gangs are roaming the streets of the city where I live in the Southwest. Why is the state wasting time and money by attacking this very small sect?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;quote_author&quot;&gt;Laurel Loflund &#45; 07 April 2008 09:35 AM&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;quote_author&quot;&gt;kinswoman &#45; 06 April 2008 11:39 PM&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;Laurel, I couldn&#8217;t find your article on the front page &#45; is it under another heading?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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It&#8217;s not a full article, Kinswoman, just a news feed with a question attacked in the right coclumn&#8230;
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God bless,
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