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      <title>Letter to Pastor B&#8217;Mac</title>
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      <published>2012-04-19T17:02:38Z</published>
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        <p>I suppose what I’m wanting to understand is the hierarchical structure of the Kingdom of God.</p>

<p>I’m concerned about this because it seems that the *Alienist* who is also a Theonomist and Postmillennialist, may have a superfically-sound case for the forceful advocacy of race-mixing (I mean: ethnic, linguistic and cultural mixing as well, where the Alienist seeks to merge all of these categories into one Christian class).</p>

<p><b>1.</b> If the Kingdom has come<br />
<b>2.</b> and if we’re to help bring in the Kingdom<br />
<b>3.</b> and if the Kingdom = The New Covenant Nation of Israel<br />
<b>4. </b>and if all (truly-regenerate) Christians are members of Israel</p>

<p><b>Conclusion:</b> then Given 4, all Christians are members of the same “nation” and if only members of the same nation can marry and be given in marriage with each other (most alienist theonomists I’ve spoken with, believe that a Christian must marry within the nation of Christ) then any Christian can marry any other Christian, regardless of the Christian’s association with a non-Israeli nation.</p>

<p>In fact, it is very likely our duty to help break down the emotional-connections to the old nationalities and help foster a new love and a new loyalty to the New Covenant Nation of Israel (or the Kingdom of God).</p>

<p><b>Now, my response as a Kinist would be</b> to highlight how the above scenario is in error because the hypoethical alienist is trying to claim the New Covenant Administration (and Christian unity) abrogates the old Covenant of Works (that God established with man in the Garden). And in the Covenant of Works, we find ordinances — “Creation” ordinances; and I’m specifically concerned with the relationship between the man and woman that naturally (and necessarily) implies ethnic-nationalism.</p>

<p>I’d argue that ethnic-nationalism is a Creation Ordinance that is never abrogated anywhere in the New Testament.</p>

<p>And, like Dr. Bahnsen always says to the critics of theonomy: If you think something has been abrogated, then show where, why and how. But don’t just assume it is no longer valid.</p>

<p>But, as you can tell in all, Pastor JB, I’m foggy on the details of this arrangement, specifically the relationship between the Visible Church and the Kingdom of God, and the Reformed view of how the Kingdom of God is to be structured.</p>

<p>I thank you kindly for your comments thus far as they’ve greatly helped me focus my thinking. I also really appreciate your articles on the Belhar Confession. You’re the coolest clergy I know!</p>

<p>God bless.
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    <entry>
      <title>The push for same&#45;sex “marriage” goes on&#8230;</title>
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      <published>2009-04-03T17:25:36Z</published>
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        <p>The push for same-sex “marriage” goes on&#8230;</p>

<p><a href="http://www.kinism.net/index.php?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.yahoo.com%2Fs%2Fap%2F20090423%2Fap_on_re_us%2Fxgr_gay_marriage_connecticut">&#8220;Vote caps decade-long gay marriage fight in Conn.&#8221;</a></p>

<blockquote><p>A decade-long battle for marriage equality in Connecticut ended late Wednesday when the General Assembly voted to update the state&#8217;s marriage laws to conform with a landmark court ruling allowing gay and lesbian couples to tie the knot&#8230; A spokesman for Gov. M. Jodi Rell said she will sign the bill, which passed 28-7 in the Senate and 100-44 in the House of Representatives, into law. While Rell, a Republican, signed the state&#8217;s 2005 civil unions law, she has said she believes that marriage should be between a man and a woman&#8230;</p></blockquote>

<p>Iowa Supreme Court mandates same-sex “marriage”</p>

<p><a href="http://www.kinism.net/index.php?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.yahoo.com%2Fs%2Fap%2F20090403%2Fap_on_re_us%2Fgay_marriage_states">&#8220;Iowa court ruling transforms the gay-marriage map&#8221;</a>
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      <title>Thomas Sowell on the Censored Race War</title>
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      <published>2012-05-15T20:53:47Z</published>
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        <p>Though himself black, Sowell <a href="http://www.kinism.net/index.php?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nationalreview.com%2Farticles%2F299918%2Fcensored-race-war-thomas-sowell%23">speaks truth</a> on the issue of the censored black-on-white race war, which has only grown more virulent during the Obama Administration, wherein the Holder Justice Department has demonstrated it will not prosecute black hate crime or black violations of white voting rights. However, even he dares not face the full extent of the problem, which is far broader and deeper than the few instances he cites in his NRO article. </p>

<p>At what point do we recognize that black-on-white violent crime is a) very often racially motivated and b) willfully under-reported and c) not sporadic or incidental, but actually systemic, a fundamental aspect of black existence in North America? Of course, Sowell is considered a &#8220;house nigger&#8221; by the common black man in the street and by black race demagogues. He has no credibility with them, and his words will go unheard.</p>

<p>When do whites sell their cloaks and buy swords? If white gangs begin to respond to this kind of thing, two things will happen: whites will be accused of hate crime and inciting race war, back perps will be shielded by &#8220;civil rights&#8221; laws. But just maybe, if the response is brutal enough, these incidents would decrease in number.
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      <title>Apartheid in South Africa</title>
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      <published>2012-05-16T10:24:45Z</published>
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        <p><a href="http://www.kinism.net/index.php?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fpilgrimagetomonsalvat.blogspot.com%2F2012%2F05%2Ffw-de-klerk-and-fall-of-south-africa.html">FW de Klerk and the fall of South Africa</a>
</p><blockquote><p>While the 1946 Fagan Commission lead to the downfall of the United Party and rise of the National Party and it&#8217;s Sauer Commission the recommendations of the Sauer Commission and the ideas Hendrik Verwoerd were never really put into place, too many businesses would have lost profit opportunities. So in effect Fagan Commission&#8217;s ideas went into effect by default. See: Apartheid in South Africa, Part 1 and Part 2, and The Union of South Africa in the 1920s. In the end it was the business elites desire for a cheap work force and an increased consumer base for manufactures and retailers that doomed the Republic of South Africa and lead to it&#8217;s fall into chaos, violence, genocide, and general savagery.</p></blockquote>

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<a href="http://www.kinism.net/index.php?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.volkstaat.net%2Findex.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26view%3Darticle%26id%3D746%3Ahow-many-blacks-died-under-apartheid-rsa%26catid%3D89%3Aapartheid-eng%26Itemid%3D147">How many blacks died under Apartheid (RSA)?</a>
</p><blockquote><p>Max Coleman’s authoritative book analyses all deaths due to political violence from 1948 to 1994 in South Africa and Namibia. According to the HRC statistics, 21,000 people died in political violence in South Africa during apartheid – of whom 14,000 people died during the six-year transition process from 1990 to 1994. The book lists the number of incidents, dates, and those involved. This includes SA Defence Force actions, for instance the 600 deaths at Kassinga in Angola during the war in 1978. Of those deaths, the vast majority, 92%, have been primarily due to Africans killing Africans — such as the inter-tribal battles for territory: this book’s detailed analyses of the period June 1990 to July 1993 indicates a total of 8580 (92%) of the 9,325 violent deaths during the period June 1990 to July 1993 were caused by Africans killing Africans, or as the news media often calls it, “Black on Black” violence – hostel killings, Inkatha Freedom Party versus ANC killlings, and taxi and turf war violence. The security forces [of the RSA. Ed.] caused 518 deaths (5.6%) throughout this period.</p></blockquote>

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Related topics:<br />
Kinism Forum<a href="http://www.kinism.net/index.php?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kinism.net%2Findex.php%2Fforums%2Fviewthread%2F1824%2F">California: South Africa Revisited?</a><br />
Kinism Forum<a href="http://www.kinism.net/index.php?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kinism.net%2Findex.php%2Fforums%2Fviewthread%2F1485%2F">Canada challenges SA (White) refugee case</a><br />
Kinism Forum<a href="http://www.kinism.net/index.php?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kinism.net%2Findex.php%2Fforums%2Fviewthread%2F227%2F">South African government hires and trains 40,000 thugs to exterminate Europeans…</a><br />
Kinism Forum<a href="http://www.kinism.net/index.php?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kinism.net%2Findex.php%2Fforums%2Fviewthread%2F2000%2F">Afrikaanse Protestantse Kerk</a><br />
Kinism Forum<a href="http://www.kinism.net/index.php?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kinism.net%2Findex.php%2Fforums%2Fviewthread%2F923%2F">The last stand of Zimbabwe’s white farmers</a><br />
Kinism Forum<a href="http://www.kinism.net/index.php?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kinism.net%2Findex.php%2Fforums%2Fviewthread%2F1758%2F">No White in the Rainbow - The Expropriation of White Farms in South Africa</a>
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      <title>John Frum, the &#8220;white&#8221; god of the South Pacific&#8230;</title>
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      <published>2008-12-07T23:33:19Z</published>
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        <p>John Frum, the &#8220;white&#8221; god of the South Pacific&#8230;</p>

<p>The beliefs seem kind of mixed up. They want &#8220;Cargo,&#8221; but hate the White Man, education, Christianity, and work? They pray for the White Man and Christianity to disappear; which will bring a new age of radios, TVs, trucks, boats, watches, iceboxes, medicine, and Coca-Cola for all. <b>The worst part is&#8230; this not unlike modern &#8220;Liberalism.&#8221; </b></p>

<blockquote><p>John Frum is the white god of the Cargo cultists of the South Pacific, it is said he will come in large airplain and bring cogo for all. He promised the dawn of a new age, in which all white people, including missionaries, would leave the, and they would gain access to the material wealth which white people enjoyed. For this to happen, the people should reject all aspects of European society; money, education, Christianity, work on plantations; and return to traditional customs.</p>

<p>Cargo cultists maintain that the manufactured goods (&#8220;cargo&#8221;) of the white man have been created by spiritual means, through their deities and ancestors, and are intended for them, but that, unfairly, the white man gained control of these objects through attraction of these material goods to white man. Cargo cults thus focus on efforts to overcome what they perceive as the undue influence of the white man attracting the goods, by conducting rituals imitating behavior they have observed among the holders of the desired wealth and presuming that their deities and ancestors will, at last, recognize their own people and send the cargo to them instead of the white man. Thus, a characteristic feature of cargo cults is the belief that spiritual agents will, at some future time, give much valuable cargo and desirable manufactured products to the cult members.</p>

<p>Famous examples of cargo cult activity include the setting up of mock airstrips, airports, offices, and dining rooms, as well as the attempted construction of European goods, such as radios made of coconuts and straw. Believers may stage &#8220;drills&#8221; and &#8220;marches&#8221; with sticks for rifles and use military-style insignia and national insignia painted on their bodies to make them look like soldiers, thereby treating the activities of European military personnel as rituals to be performed for the purpose of attracting the cargo. The cult members built these items and &#8220;facilities&#8221; in the belief that the structures would attract cargo intended to be sent to them. They built life-size replicas of airplanes out of straw and created new military-style landing strips, hoping to attract more airplanes.</p></blockquote>

<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.kinism.net/index.php?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.smithsonianmag.com%2Fpeople-places%2Fjohn.html">In John They Trust</a><br />
South Pacific villagers worship a mysterious American they call John Frum - believing he&#8217;ll one day shower their remote island with riches </p>

<p>...</p>

<p>This is February 15, John Frum Day, on the remote island of Tanna in the South Pacific nation of Vanuatu. On this holiest of days, devotees have descended on the village of Lamakara from all over the island to honor a ghostly American messiah, John Frum. “John promised he’ll bring planeloads and shiploads of cargo to us from America if we pray to him,” a village elder tells me as he salutes the Stars and Stripes. “Radios, TVs, trucks, boats, watches, iceboxes, medicine, Coca-Cola and many other wonderful things.”</p>

<p>...</p>

<p>Chief Isaac and other local leaders say that John Frum first appeared one night in the late 1930s, after a group of elders had downed many shells of kava as a prelude to receiving messages from the spirit world. “He was a white man who spoke our language, but he didn’t tell us then he was an American,” says Chief Kahuwya, leader of Yakel village. John Frum told them he had come to rescue them from the missionaries and colonial officials. “John told us that all Tanna’s people should stop following the white man’s ways,” Chief Kahuwya says. “He said we should throw away their money and clothes, take our children from their schools, stop going to church and go back to living as kastom people. We should drink kava, worship the magic stones and perform our ritual dances.”</p>

<p>...</p></blockquote>
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      <title>Southern Baptist Official Richard Land in trouble for speaking truthfully about the Trayvon Martin case</title>
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      <published>2012-05-11T04:38:25Z</published>
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        <p><a href="http://www.kinism.net/index.php?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2F2012%2F05%2F11%2Frichard-land-apologizes-trayvon-martin-comments_n_1507943.html">Richard Land Apologizes Again For Trayvon Martin Comments After Meeting Black Southern Baptists </a>
</p><blockquote><p>Southern Baptist leader Richard Land has issued a lengthy public apology for his racially charged comments about the Trayvon Martin case, and said he has sent a personal letter to President Obama seeking forgiveness. Land, who leads the Southern Baptist Convention&#8217;s Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, issued the two-page apology Wednesday (May 9), a week after a five-hour meeting with African-American leaders and other Southern Baptist officials.</p></blockquote>

<p>Southern Baptist Official Richard Land in trouble for speaking truthfully about the Trayvon Martin case. And then sadly makes a fool of himself with this idiotic apology. Their moral and cultural decline over the last 20 years is shocking, and now their membership is in decline as well.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.kinism.net/index.php?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bpnews.net%2FBPnews.asp%3FID%3D37795">As Land issues 5-part apology, NAAF pres. awaits trustee action</a>
</p><blockquote><p>I am here today to offer my genuine and heartfelt apology for the harm my words of March 31, 2012, have caused to specific individuals, the cause of racial reconciliation, and the gospel of Jesus Christ. Through the ministry of The Reverend James Dixon, Jr. the president of the National African American Fellowship of the Southern Baptist Convention, and a group of brethren who met with me earlier this month, I have come to understand in sharper relief how damaging my words were.</p>

<p>First, I want to confess my insensitivity to the Trayvon Martin family for my imbalanced characterization of their son which was based on news reports&#8230;</p>

<p>Second, I am here to confess that I impugned the motives of President Obama and the reverends Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. It was unchristian and unwise for me to have done so&#8230;</p>

<p>Third, I do not believe that crime statistics should in any way justify viewing a person of another race as a threat. I own my earlier words about statistics; and I regret that they may suggest that racial profiling is justifiable. I have been an outspoken opponent of profiling and was grief-stricken to learn that comments I had made were taken as a defense of what I believe is both unchristian and unconstitutional. I share the dream of the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., that all men, women, boys, and girls would be judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin. Racial profiling is a heinous injustice. I should have been more careful in my choice of words&#8230;</p>

<p>Fourth, I must clarify another poor choice of words. I most assuredly do not believe American racism is a &#8216;myth&#8217; in the sense that it is imaginary or fictitious&#8230; Racial justice is a non-partisan ideal and should be embraced by both sides of the political aisle&#8230;</p>

<p>Finally, I want to express my deep gratitude to Reverend Dixon and the other men who met with me recently for their Christ-like witness, brotherly kindness, and undaunting courage&#8230;</p></blockquote>

<p>Related Kinism Forum topics:<br />
<a href="http://www.kinism.net/index.php?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kinism.net%2Findex.php%2Fforums%2Fviewthread%2F1277%2F">Southern Baptist Convention to pass pro-Obama resolution&#8230;</a><br />
<a href="http://www.kinism.net/index.php?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kinism.net%2Findex.php%2Fforums%2Fviewthread%2F1375%2F">More Foolishness from Jimmy Carter&#8230;</a><br />
<a href="http://www.kinism.net/index.php?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kinism.net%2Findex.php%2Fforums%2Fviewthread%2F158%2F">Southern Baptist Churches in Crisis</a>
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      <title>Maryland &#8220;youth&#8221; crime</title>
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        <p><a href="http://www.kinism.net/index.php?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fbaltimore.cbslocal.com%2F2012%2F04%2F06%2Fcrowd-beats-strips-robs-tourist-on-st-patricks-day-incident-caught-on-camera%2F">White Man laughed at, kicked and robbed, stripped of his clothes by crowd of Maryland youths on St. Patrick&#8217;s Day.</a></p>

<p>Video doesn&#8217;t show the entire incident, it was edited for TV, but it shows more than enough.
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      <title>McNamara Claims Record For Biggest Wave Ever Surfed</title>
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Another White guy doing amazing things.
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    <entry>
      <title>Guess the Race</title>
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        <p><a href="http://www.kinism.net/index.php?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myfoxny.com%2Fstory%2F18242422%2Fwave-of-violence-following-newark-concert">Wave of violence following Newark concert</a></p>

<p>&#8220;...the suspects appeared to be a band of 10 or 15 &#8220;thugs.&#8221; No arrests have been made.&#8221;
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    <entry>
      <title>Watching Another &#8220;Role Model&#8221; Crash and Burn&#8230;</title>
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        <p>I&#8217;ve never heard Amy Winehouse sing, so can&#8217;t speak from experience as to whether her music has value.</p>

<p>Unfortunately, it would appear that, to her, her life has no value. She spends it in rounds of debauchery and tears. I am posting the URL of the article I read about her here:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.kinism.net/index.php?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailymail.co.uk%2Fpages%2Flive%2Farticles%2Fshowbiz%2Fshowbiznews.html%3Fin_article_id%3D561864%26in_page_id%3D1773%26ico%3DHomepage%26icl%3DTabModule%26icc%3Dpicbox%26ct%3D5">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=561864&amp;in_page_id=1773&amp;ico=Homepage&amp;icl=TabModule&amp;icc=picbox&amp;ct=5</a></p>

<p>However, I would like to recommend that if you have a squeamish stomach, don&#8217;t go to the article, as the photographs of the singer there are truly disturbing. I&#8217;ve never seen anyone so young look so awful.</p>

<p>God bless,<br />
Laurel
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